Well everybody, Abigale responded to this thread! A big thanks to her and Slant Six for listening to our ideas.
AbigaleSS wrote:
A thread that has this much response and this many kudos always gets my attention. Rest assured, the entire thread is being pointed out to the team. Thanks for all the feedback!
This weeks "You Can Tell He Never Played SOCOM Before" Response: http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.i
d=confrontation&message.id=775064#M775064 Some Community Thoughts "This is the most amazing list i've seen posted on this forum since this forum was created. Slant 6, this is a must read! Good job Untamed-Walrus!" - lilgame06
"Man if they could fix all those in red and just some not in red this game would be 100 times as great. Good work compiling the list , I hope it is read by the right people." - JHB207JHB
Doesn't get much easier than this Slant 6! Read this post, and do something about it, we want Socom back. - iNsuLt
"This list is amazing. This list is what Socom users want and how the game should be. This is what will make Socom a great game." - 12uthless
[Replying to the above qoute] "If st6 follows this list, i agree. I think they should do weekly patches, every Friday release a patch fixing some problems until the game is complete." "ST6 should just work looking at this thread and they will sell many copies, just get it right." - FantastiQ
"Great Job on Compiling this list btw. I have read every idea and it is awesome. Keep up the good work." - DarkXGHosts
"Yo this list is the best thread EVER!!!!! Great job!!!!!!" - IrishSmooth
"(there's a lot here, amazing thread)" - PacoFuentes
"These are great things, all of them,[...]" - Xtraordinaire
"I think just fixing the QuickSwap so it dont reset every round and bringing back the 1st person view(getting rid of Over the shoulder) & Lean while prone would be a great start for a small patch. and will make alot of people happy."
- InFaMoUs_PuNz
"I love the game how it is, but 90% of these suggestions are really good" - Mr-Maddcoolyo
"BEST THREAD! EVER! Slant Six.... If you ever see Untamed Walrus while playing your unfixed game! ADD HIM AND ASK HIM TO HELP YOU!" - PS-God
"yo \6 get this guy to help u. he knows what we need for this game. so if u r tryin to make a game 4 the ppl here it is. no BS its all right here." -NUTANG
(I'd seriously work for for them online just doing things like this. *Waits for a PM about a job to arrive*. One bad thing most gaming companies never do is get real fans to help.)
This is a list of everything I could come up with from the socom community. It is quite obvious that just about everyone would agree with most of this thread. So far I have made all requests/fixes/suggestions color coded. Controversial subjects in red will have an asterisk with an explanation to them. Other controversial subjects are made to please both sides (ex: bomb plant respawn debate is suggested as having an in game option). Remember that I am in no way insulting slant six, I am providing them with information they need. I have spent much time on this and I still am. I even went on SOCOM 2 to find missing things. I appreciate the support. You all have made this thread what it is. This is OUR THREAD! Also try reading all of these things, but I know the length does make it hard. Find anything missing? Send me a private message if something big is missing. I am always reading posts. *Send me a PSN invite if you want. Untamed-Walrus *Some of these posts are copied directly from other posts about the communities views. I added as much as I could find. I don't take FULL CREDIT (as some might be direct copy and paste) but I did write alot of these. I also sleep (sometimes) so don't be mad if I don't add your posts for a few hours. If anything in this list is mentioned more then one time, it's because it is huge and hard to find these things. PLEASE READ THIS PART: Thanks you all for helping with this, through your views. I will be taking more down on the new list. The new list is simply going to be located under this one, seperated by a line. It will come about sometime in the near future. "Great Thread i agree with all of em...!!! BUt i dont think slant six listens to us...they just act like it."
- bKiLLz ^^^Lets hope Slant Six will prove this guy wrong. Abigale proved that they read, but do they listen?
Dark Red/Brown= Do this or we will be infuriated! This especially includes taking away from past SOCOM's. Red= Do this eventually or we won't be happy! Orange= Would probably improve SOCOM in some way if added. Even though it is in orange we might still really want it in our game! Green= Sounds like a good idea. Blue- Anything DLC (Downloadable Content) Related Pink= No purpose being here really, but take it as you will. Gray= Not yet ranked All bugs, regardless of color, are expected to be fxed. It is quite obvious that if you fixed a good amount of these things then the game would be AMAZING. Atleast fix the things you are willing to fix, and the ones the ruin classic socum experience. THIS IS WHAT WE WANT! Lets see if you guys can give it to us. My faith remains in Slant Six. Please don't ditch us like other developers. If you are having trouble reading the dark red colors (or others) it's probably because you read this post off of the TOP KUDO THREADS, casuing the background to be gray. Since it's much easier to see on a black background you can view this page straight off the boards. http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.i
d=confrontation&thread.id=768508. I have since changed the tone to a color that works better on each background. HERE ARE ALL OF THE ISSUES: THERE SEEMS TO BE REDUCED WEAPON POWER TO ASSAULT RIFLES AFTER THE PATCH. IT SHOULD NOT TAKE 6+ CHEST SHOTS. sniper rifles = 1 hit 1 kill for bolt action. (if hasnt been addressed in 1.30) Heavy armor should be penetrated by a .50 Cal as easily as light armor. (Realistic) add time after game in which we can kill people and change guns instead of looking at eachother and shooting pointlessly. This has always been in socom. fix PSN Location with abreviated room/server names . Tiebreaker Round must come back. Make side switching at half-way point OPTIONAL so everyone is happy. In ranked games (not respawns), don't allow late joiners to switch teams and unbalance things. In addition to the "classic map medley idea" (Refer to blue section) there is another idea for all maps. Since SIDESWICTHING and BOMB PLANT RESPAWN options "won't be fair to ranked room" you guys can allow us to have our own ranked medley having things such as swide switching at half and bomb plant respawn off. It can be called "HARDCORE" (although I'd prefer to stay away from that COD4 liek word.). It would be really awesome to have all S2 maps in this medley stick to what game mode they originally were. Fix ability to shoot off of railings and around corners, as well as off of balconys. There is an invisible proxy wall in the way. This represents the need to fix ALL stability issues including LAG, PS3 Freeze in game, PS3 Freeze in PSN, Boot to PSN, lag in gunfights, framerate issues etc etc etc. More specific requests are in the red section. This is the most important thing to fix. Bring back guns that were in Confrontation but taken out (yes you can see m82a1 in the Socom Weapons Video, we know you took it out to make some$$$.) -Killcam should turn off after 5 seconds or not show where the person was at all. -The remainder of the Party System (4x4,8x8) -Ability to shoot when on a balcony ALL WEAPONS YOU TOOK OUT! This includes, but is not limited to, m82a1a, sr25, ra14, 9mm sub, m40a1 (the old a1 version would make a nice terrorist typical hunting rifle), AG94, 9mm pistol, AND MORE -Make hit detection better. If someone has blood on their face and is alive, this is what I mean. -Bring back gear that was robbed from us. Thermal scope. PMN Mines (in real life mines/IED's are a huge terrorist thing). PMN mines should be colored like s2. -Make Night Vision better. The classic goggles view from S2 is realistic. First person NV atleast! Fully customize loadoat (controls) Fix " X fragged Y" screen to how it used to be. Then make it so that screen cuts of a little higher up, making it easier to see people. Fix ability to lean and shoot. Allow option for bomb respawn to be ON/OFF If changes are made to tone up/down guns ADD THEM TO THE GUN STAT SCREEN SO WE KNOW Ability to shoot and kill people after game time is over as well as change weapons Improve reload interruptions. Prone Leaning with DPAD QUICKSWAP From Old Socom's Must Come Back (With L1. Ability to set your swap1 and swap2 and have it last liek that through the entire game. It should automatically be you pistol as default SWAP2) 8v8 Party System Is Essential Fix the error message: "operation could not be completed because there was an error communicating with the server" so it only pops up once instead of lots of times. Add real lefty preset. R1 needs to be the shoot button. When you choose a weapon in a game it should not save to your custom loadout unless you do that in the menu. Fix issue that prevents players from picking up the bomb when someone dies on it. This can be accomplished by what was done in previous socoms, the ability to CYCLE through all nearby actions Late-comer round count issue. (only seeing the rounds that has been won AFTER you joined) Knock timer for 8v8 maps down to about 5 minutes. Fix ALL quickmatch issues. MAKE IT TAKE MORE THAN 50% TO VOTE SOMEONE OUT. This is just dumb. in a 4v4 if 2 people on the same team hate eachother whoever votes out first wins. In old socoms (more reliable) it took more then that. In new clan ladder matches, please don't make it like socom III in which everyone that was on in a clan played everyone that was on in the other (it could be 16 vs4). Fix issue where you can't lean out from a corner and scope. Dive to prone should be easier and not have to hold triangle so long (main point is that its not like socom2 still is what some people say. I like it though) Add ability to pick up grenades from dead bodies Add ability to pickup guns/nades from dead bodies AFTER THE ROUND. I KNOW I POSTED THIS TWICE BUT ALLOW US TO KILL PEOPLE WHEN A ROUND ENDS OR PICK UP WEAPONS. THATS HOW MUCH IT BOTHERS ME. It's so stupid shooting at someone to no avail.in s3) etc etc Smaller, more frequent, patches. Complete REDO of Nightvision. Ability to run with nightvision as well as having it in 1stPerson(Preferably goggles view) Make our own ranked rooms (with precautions such as no password allowed in ranked rooms.) Bottom line=Bullet BETTER go where my crosshair is.Rank/stats should not be affected DRAMATICALLY from being disconnected (or voted out), especially with these server issues. improve pistols add lobby chat make nightvision GOGGLES VIEW LIKE S2. If not a first person NV will do fine. NV needs to be redone -No more hiccups. (I honestly don't know what this is but EVERYONE seems to hate it) -The Scoreboard should be on the "tap" basis. as where the scoreboard only appears as you hold select and dissapears when you let go. -Follow feature. -Viewable Points system (Similar to S2) Clan calender needs to be put in. Clan Area must be improved with less lag If possible make the menu have less lag to it. first person view, get rid of OTS or have an option of OTS/1stPerson. fix shadows/laser going through walls condense end of game stats screen -Shave a second off the reload, please. (Most people agree this should be toned down, but others say its realistic to have it longer than old socoms. I think a solution is to only take a second off. No more than that. keeps all happy) ***Somewhat controversial, but a second isn't making it anywhere near as fast as previous socoms. Increase accuracy of scoped weapons (if it hasnt been addressed with 1.30). The bullet must go where my crosshairds aim. This goes for rifle lasers too. -Adjust the following handguns to be more powerful: 226, Mark 23, F57. These guns should be how they used to be in pervious socoms. The DE is very accurate and somewhat powerful but I'm not sure that I can say it shouldn't be accurate because in real life long barrel=more accurate/range usually. The best solution is to make it more powerful (2 shot kill) but have horrible recoil. Once you fire that first accurate shot it takes forveer for it to come back down (similar to s2) -BRING BACK JUMP TO CLIMB. Such as in desert glory the ledge that used to be climeable. -SHOW US WHO THE HOST IS IN A ROOM. Old socom's had "m" next to the hosts name, or something similar. -Headset icon needs to show next to who is talking (think socom3...sadly) Team shuffling after a match should not happen. ability to see an underwater swimmer ability to knife underwater swimmer Clan Ladder and Matches/Tournaments added Fix "FREEZE WHILE READING MESSAGE IN THE PSN" Knife should be one hit one kill WHEN YOU HIT THEM IN THE BACK (SOMETIMES IT ISNT), this is not even debated since it was posted on socom.com that it would be 1 hit 1 kill. Allow us to close a door after we open it. This goes for all maps. Get rid of the darkness when you spawn. (although this might be a good idea to end the game with) Scope should be steadier (IF NOT ADRESSED WITH 1.30) Scope should be slower (IF NO ADRESSED WITH 1.30) SHOULD HEAR VOICE OVER'S MORE. (When you throw grenades, kill someone, get hurt, etc etc) Ability to shoot through car windows and kill someone behind them. -If you prone dive on stairs you cant move forward. (I haven't confirmed this but have heard it from numerous people) Fix remaining framerate issues (doesen't seem to be fixed with 1.30) Fix glitch where you are forced to listen to a certain opposite team member until he dies. Option to vote people out in the pre-game lobby. Fix incorrect announcements. When we don't plant the bomb, but still win, it shouldn't say "successfully planted the bomb" Fix spawn sync in which everyone spawn at the same time in the beginning (I don't see this a whole lot) Fix random screaming noises when nobody is falling. Tone UP other clan guns. Theyre garbage. Respawns should have infinite ammo like they used to. Fix bug in which you randomly freeze in a match Text Chat in all lobbys SHOW HEALTH OF TEAMMATE WHILE YOU ARE DEAD IN SPECTATOR MODE and what gun they have. Make VIP's more intelligent, but have them be afraid of FLASHBANGS so you can screw up an extract attempt Some socom fans want m203 and AT4 in ranked rooms. Being fair, I had to put it in this post. There has to be some kind of compromise to make everyone happy. Personally I think AT4's ae for noobs but this isnt my opinion thread its of the socom community. Alot of the community also wants them banned. PLAY SOCOM 2 NOW AND SEE LITTLE THINGS WE LIKE! clan tag needs to appear on scoreboard, in the gametags in game improve guns that are overall, garbage. (RTK for example). Fix Clan Color Problems The grenade "line" is not accurate as to where it actually goes" Enemy foot steps cannot be heard at all if an enemy is moving behind you or anywhere just outside of your camera's visual area Scoreboard should note the player who has possession of the satchel in some way
Combat log should not overlap scoreboard, SCOREBOARD SHOULD OVERLAP COMBAT LOG
Combat log should not overlap start button menu, START BUTTON MENU SHOULD OVERLAP COMBAT LOG
When in crouch not moving and you use the weapon wheel, scoreboard, or any game menu, your guy will stand up while you use them. Then go back to crouch when your done. - Jump and reload (classic Socom) Ability to shoot in mid air but make it innaccurate. Needs to be a higher lookspeed MAX Grenades and Shotguns knock people over (Althought they probably wouldn't in reallife, its a classic feature and without it shotguns are garbage)
YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO CHANGE FACTIONS WITHOUT LOSING RANK Rank should Involve skill (kills) not who wins games. (Yes is is a team game but these are individual stats.) DAILY (Or close to it) updates on SOCOM.com It would be nice to have kill log color coded. Red for MECS and Blue for seals would work. (Half red and half orange. Wasn't in old socoms but would make things alot easier)
Fix NEW Jumping BUG. (Cant even jump over stairs) Comment: If your doing this to fix glitches you can jump to then just patch it so it has a proxy wall instead of ruining jumping over objects. Medley's should be 100% random. Server names should automatically be alphabetical. Ability to jump on crates in frostfire Bring back eSEALs lobby for people who like paintball, pistols only, etc rooms. If you think people will rank up in this room or GNK rooms (which doesnt actually harm the community and is intended for fun and leaving the community out of harm) then thats awesome! It would be so easy to ban these people by bringing in a mod every day. Add a button allowing the host to force the game once majory has greened up. Radio channels. (channel 1, channel 2,) so you can talk away from annoying people. -Automatic reload when clip is empty -Custom Taunts Ability to use ANY spec ops gun in respawn only, that way people will have fun and not complain about guns getting boring. Cars should not explode this easily. It gets annoying but I doubt it will be changed -ability to choose spawn Realistic Noise. Slow walking should make no noise and slow ladder climb should make little noise Shorter bomb defuse time (old socoms were 4 seconds). If it was like it used to be demo's would mean more then just planting and camping where they cant find you, followed by them poking out and shooting you. even if you kill the other team you will have no time to defuse. -Bigger areas to plant bomb. (some maps have achieved this with allowing you to plant the bomb outside of the green circle) This will NEVER come back but it's worth a note: Have ability to unlock SOCOM2 Music!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Easy unlockable idea that would bring back good memories. You could easily add the file "SOCOM II Online THEME" as an unlockable. Even the main menu theme. Crazy vets like me would actually love this and its easy to put in!!!!! S2 used alot of creepy songs. Placement of BIPOD on a window Making ladder climbing a little less audible Better Melee Stealth Animations. (Throat Slit, hit with gun, stab instead of slash, etc. could be controlled via sixaxis maybe...but thats hard to figure out. just throwing an idea up) Should be able to hear your guy get out of breath while running. Possibly make cars harder to blow up, like in real life. The art of hinting. Slant Six tried to hint at making a map pack by saying "the art/design teams are working on something coming down the pipes" but if there was alot of hinting it would spark interest in the game and more hope for slant 6. screen shot capturing feature needs to be added. Would help alot with reporting cheaters. Alot of people want classic ranking symbols back, but I doubt it will happen. Some people want 12 rounds in medleys, some people don't. Allow host of a user-created room to skip a map if they created the room. Socom Confronation, once it is stabilized, should release advertising and commercials. Many socomers wish to see the classic SEALs VS TERRORISTS in the lobby, even though there are more Special Forces than the seals. In SOCOM2 you could also use the SAS and Spetznaz that collaborate witth the seals. TERRORISTS made alot of people actually play because they hated terrorists. Nobody cares about mercenaries. Another idea is to make the incidents where both people kill eachother into draws instead of awarding it quite randomly. Lets face it, nobody believed that "but he killed him a split second sooner" BS. Ability to have cooler clan logos In game messages should be the same as PSN When you have your crosshairs on the enemy BEFORE you shoot your crosshairs go red and it shows their name like in s2. The name part actually helps when doing fun things such as organizing a "knife duel" with a friend on the other team. To the above line- The same goes for teammates but it should turn green when you highlight them. It should also show their healthbar when you point gun at them (as well as VIPS) Show map drawing during load screen Bring back s2 pistol running animation. When you go sideways he holds pistol with one hand. little things liek this actually are important to a s2 feel. if rank ups end up taking over, clear the top 20 or so people once in a while to make them cry. Zipper, thank you for doing that haha one good thing they did. Bring back airstrikes...at fixed points. NOT LIKE COD!!!! Combat log should display actions in various colors.
Clan news page similar to SOCOM 2 Connection Ping for players and games - Exit wounds THE CAMO COLOR BLACK NEEDS TO BE BLACK NOT GRAY/BROWN
CLAN PATCH'S SHOULD SHOW UP DURING THE GAME THERE SHOULDNT BE A CLAN INVITE LIMIT Ability to change armor in game If possible allow an invite to be accepted somewhere other than the message center. -Scope crosshairs at night pose a problem because they are impossible to see. - the clan should be looked at as its own entity. And each individual person can choose their country of origin. So many people in my clan want different things. It would be less of a headache if everyone could just be what ever they wanted. Get rid of green hologram where bomb should be planted. We can find it! Takes realism out of the game with a dumb hologram. Put in a stamina meter (like the swimming under water meter) so that sprinting isn't overused. If cars/propane explosions were toned up along with the grenades, tone them back down. Add spectator mode and the ability to vote out spectators Some people wish to bring back the timer and the abilitiy to talk (last words/talking trash) while the game is starting In a way, socom2 gave off a creepy vibe which was great. I think this had to do with the music and dark background though. Consider adding in game S2 sounds (i dont mean music this time). Add adds a creep factor to the game. Go play and see what i mean Allow shotguns to breach doors/walls. This will never be done though. Ability to kick in doors. Make different looking hostages. they all look the same! Ability to remove a vote from a person easier. L96AW should be a seals gun not terrorist. People have requested to convert the "glitch" to get on the mountain in fallen to a accepted thing by putting stairs/climbs there. would be great for sniper wars. Make more rooftops accessable SOCOM.com PHASE 2 - ONE MAP ONE MODE. This is what made the maps so great, they were built around one mode in mind to make that mode perfect!! (they MUST be created for one map specifically but as for allowing only one mode, read my solutions to this) - Non symmetrical maps/different themes not all desert Maps now are TOO EVEN. Add old s2 weapons such as AK 105, hk5k, SP10, AKS 74, m9, m11, ra14(was also in s3) etc etc A flare gun to light up the sky in night maps has been suggested. In a general statement, MAPS NEED MORE VARIETY. (not all urban. s2 was successful with this) Need jungle, snow, moderncity, . Every maps when it rains (ruins as examplle are cool. Bring back spetznaz and their gun can be the ak105. Bring back m203 SMOKE and have it okay for ranked rooms. Only smoke. Some of the top maps I have seen requested, in some sort of order, are: Fish Hook, Enowapi, Sujo, Foxhunt, Nightstalker, Blizzard, and the ruins. Just to throw that out there. I also saw a good amount of sandstorm requests. Personally, I think The Mixer (a few people have too, but not a huge amount) would be a great addition. Add turret guns. Add DOUBLE AMMO. Not double clips, double ammo. To make money, and I know you would love that, make an offline as DLC. Sure it will take time but who cares you will get money! This game could be a long project, and you would be gaining money off of each new thing. Ability to create female characters More environment actions (example, things like blowing bridge detonators, opening doors, turning on the pump, and cutting wires [enowapi] to make it dark inside of a place) If enowapi ever comes back it needs to be so that you can only use a pistol while in night vision mode. thats how it was in s2 flashlight attachment that can be turned on/off Ability to tap a button to do the "COVER ME" command Crosshairs are blue in this game. Kinda weird, but who really cares. Random laser beams in the sky bug.Not really worth fixing though. Message Edited by Untamed-Walrus on 01-13-2009 08:51 PM Message Edited by Untamed-Walrus on 01-13-2009 08:52 PM Message Edited by Untamed-Walrus on 01-13-2009 08:55 PM Message Edited by Untamed-Walrus on 01-13-2009 09:12 PM Message Edited by Untamed-Walrus on 01-13-2009 09:20 PM Message Edited by Untamed-Walrus on 01-14-2009 07:14 AM Message Edited by Untamed-Walrus on 01-14-2009 09:52 AM Message Edited by Untamed-Walrus on 01-14-2009 09:53 AM Message Edited by Untamed-Walrus on 01-14-2009 12:51 PM Message Edited by Untamed-Walrus on 01-14-2009 03:16 PM Message Edited by Untamed-Walrus on 01-14-2009 03:18 PM Message Edited by Untamed-Walrus on 01-14-2009 08:41 PM
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SOCOM II, Madden 2005, GTA: San Andreas, MVP Baseball 2004, WWE: Shut Your Mouth
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