Well the Xbox has had ALOT more probs then this.

http://www.8bitjoystick.com/archives/jake_inside_source_reveal_th
e_truth_about_xbox_360_red_ring_of_death_failures.php

And this is the first ive ever heard of this so called code of death.

And its all from 2 post noobs so im to sure if i can believe it even happened or if we got more xbox trolls. 

But atleast SONY lets us say what ever we want here the Xbox forums are highly regulated.

They scan EVERY post before they let it be posted.

Kinda reminds my of some propaganda run communist BS. 

Gota love freedom of speech. 

Noobs huh? pft. Whatever... I'm glad you haven't heard of the problem. To me that means maybe it's not a huge problem with the system, and maybe my replacemenet won't have the same problem. But if you'll look elsewhere online you'll find that this is obviously alot bigger problem than what you're saying here. I love my PS3 and I'm aware that it is less troublesome than an Xbox 360, which I wouldn't have. I would rather have a faulty PS3 than an XBox. But there is a problem with it that is bigger than those that are payed by Sony to get on here and bash people with problems are letting on. I called Sony and they would only  reluctantly say that yes, this has been a problem. Yet they would not explain exactly what the problem was. I honestly would like to know exactly what it is that caused it to malfunction this way so at least I know what I'm getting into. That's my only purpose for my comments, hoping that someone with common since will read it and say 'yes, I've had the same problem and this is what was wrong.' I am of the opinion it is a problem with the latest firmware update. My system worked beautifully until that latest update. One week later, my blu ray drive is shot. However I am not  well schooled in all the technical issues with gaming consoles. I don't expect a miracle machine that never has problems. What I do expect is a company that will be honest with me after I spend over $500.00 for a system and several thousand dollars in software over the years. Is that too much to ask? I don't have to be aware of all the problems an XBox has to appreciate the quality of my PS3. I didn't spend $500.00 on an XBox. I spent $500.00 on a PS3. That's the machine I want and I would like answers when there's an obvious widespread problem with the system.

If you have those answers please share them with me instead of telling me how lucky I am to have a PS3 over and XBox 360. 

If you haven't already, I invite you all with problems to log into the thread : Have you sent in your PS3 for repairs where you can describe your problems and let everyone know how your repairs are going.  You can read how others have made out.  The 80 gig version like I had seems to be the one that is staying on backorder, unfortunately.  Just read the first post to see how we want to maintain the thread and eliminate all arguing with the inevitable antagonists that jumped on you guys.  Never, never answer them.  Simple but effective way of keeping the thread alive and not getting it locked by administrators.

thanks

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Mattio2187 wrote:
I originally thought it was the firmware update as well. Did some research at the time and I guess it was happening before the update. Its the blue-ray diode. It burns out in that model of the system.

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NAT1ON wrote:
WELL IT SEEMS THAT THIS ERROR CODE IS A POPULAR CODE 80010514. IN OTHER WORDS ITS THE CODE OF DEATH. SO IF YOU HAVE IT, ITS A GONER. MAKE THE CALL TO SONY AND WAIT 3-4 WEEKS. AS FOR ME IF IT HAPPENS AGAIN THERE WILL BE NO MORE SONY PS3 FOR ME. ANY WAY FOR THOSE OF YOU YOU HAVE OR WILL HAVE THIS PROBLEM GOOD LUCK, THERE ARE NO FIXES FOR THIS ONLY STRESS IN TRYING TO FIX IT. i AM JUST HOPING THAT IT WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN, BUT KNOWING THE WAY THINGS ARE BUILT NOW DAY I AM SURE THAT IT WILL. THATS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU TRY AND RUSH AND BUILD AS YOU GO ALONG, SO SAD SONY SO SAD. AS FOR THOSE THAT WILL LOOK AT THIS AND BE A CRITIC JUST WAIT THE CHANCES OF THIS HAPPENING TO YOU ARE VERY HIGH, SO LOL

Message Edited by jasquarefan on 01-02-2008 10:07 AM

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According to these guys, the error is related to a bad firmware install.

"The error code is actually one of two things, a) a faulty sector on the internal hard drive, or b) a faulty installation of software/firmware, both iterations actually coincide with each other. If the hard drive suffers a faulty sector ( a section of damaged space on the drive that data may have been written to that no longer is readable), an installation may still be processed, and even work, but the error can cause some serious side effects, such as option b. If your PS3 has installed an item incorrectly, including firmware, it is in high risk of receiving this error.

Basically, what is occuring is the corruption of game disc recognition and execution. If you will notice, in 90% of all cases, the drive will still play DVD and even Blu Ray movies with no problems. When trying to start a game however, the title, sooner or later, will receive the error."