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Techni wrote:

1)  Lets say you've had a PS3 fail. You get a new one. That means 50% of your PS3s have failed. That's not the statistic for all PS3s

 

2) As someone else said, people are far more likely to post their system failed than otherwise. The squeaky wheel effect. You're not seeing the other side of the coin so to speak.

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Once again I'm sorry but I have seen so much with my own eyes it's really hard to believe that astronomically low rate.

I mean if those numbers are correct, my chance of having a PS3 fail on me is lower than my chances of winning my state lotto.

Guess I should of bought a ticket cause I'm on PS3 #3

I should point out my 60GB PS3 I have currently didnt have the graphical issues until my nephew who is only 1 came over and knocked down my surround sound speaker right onto my PS3.

We were playing Wheel of Fortune and right after it happened one of the characters had a long pole sticking out of her arm pit, this is called poling.

From there it got way worse over a couple weeks, to the point where now If I play Demon's souls for more then .5hrs I get poling so bad the game is almost unplayable.

My new 160GB PS3 handles it(Demo's Souls) just fine so I know something is up with my 60GB.

And I believe Sony said less then 0.5%.

Oh yeah I have heard YLOD can be caused by about 4-6 different things, from a bad power supply to a corrupt HDD, etc.

Double oh yeah, most of the disc read errors are corrected by swabbing the lens of the lazer with a que-tip and rubbing alcohol. Just like the PS2.

One guy on Ebay charges like $50 and if the que-tip dont work he sends it back to you!!   

 Hes making good money off of peoples ignorance, LOL.  Anyone can swab the friggen lazer.

So what causes YLOD in your mind that Sony should do the free fix for?    YLOD = General failure.

I agree they should reflow the MB for free, everything else make us pay.  

Or charge for the reflow and give us a 1yr warrenty on the repair, then give an option to extend said warrenty = everyone happy. (except Sony, LOL.)

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BreakStation3 wrote:

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Techni wrote:

1)  Lets say you've had a PS3 fail. You get a new one. That means 50% of your PS3s have failed. That's not the statistic for all PS3s

 

2) As someone else said, people are far more likely to post their system failed than otherwise. The squeaky wheel effect. You're not seeing the other side of the coin so to speak.

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Once again I'm sorry but I have seen so much with my own eyes it's really hard to believe that astronomically low rate.

I mean if those numbers are correct, my chance of having a PS3 fail on me is lower than my chances of winning my state lotto.

Guess I should of bought a ticket cause I'm on PS3 #3

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Well why do some people go through 3-4 PS3's when others still have perfectly fine LAUNCH models???????

Not saying its you, just that it could be, maybe.

For the record I'm on my third PS3 as well, but i straight up killed my first two, LOL.

First was a stuck disc,that ended up making me do the fantest and I fried it.(Turned upside down while holding eject and it got real loud)

Second was the nephew dropping my speaker onto my next 60GB PS3.

So now I'm on my 160GB PS3, and I will get Sony to fix my graphically challenged console for free.  Then I'll have two PS3's, yeah for me.

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Phillyblunz wrote:

 

Not saying its you, just that it could be, maybe.

 

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Well unless it died of bordom I really can't think of anything I could have done to kill it. It gets used twice a week at most because of classes, and training I have.

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Absinthetic wrote:

i dont think any company will ever want to willingly admit to a problem

 

why would they?

 

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Because of something called the Consumer Protection Act and the Federal Trade Commission. Anyone remember the Ford Pinto? Many of you are far too young to recall that Ford refused to own up to admitting that this; 

Was a veritable deathtrap of a car. Ford was aware of the design flaw (and it was PROVEN to be a design flaw) and refused to recall the car, instead they paid off families of those killed in crashes. There were lawsuits and even though Ford was aquitted, they lost millions of dollars. The court cases paved the way for many of the consumer protection laws we have in place today. 

The thing is that nobody has PROVEN (and that's the key here ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls) beyond a shadow of a doubt in labratory testing that the PS3 has a design flaw. We need more than "look at the posts" and "Google it" to constitute proof. You can make the claim all you want, but until somebody out there from a REPUTABLE source (and that doesn't mean some yellow journalist or some blogger) proves that there's a problem then there won't be any admission of any kind. 

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CaptainAlbator wrote:

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Absinthetic wrote:

i dont think any company will ever want to willingly admit to a problem

 

why would they?

 

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Because of something called the Consumer Protection Act and the Federal Trade Commission. Anyone remember the Ford Pinto? Many of you are far too young to recall that Ford refused to own up to admitting that this; 

 

 

Was a veritable deathtrap of a car. Ford was aware of the design flaw (and it was PROVEN to be a design flaw) and refused to recall the car, instead they paid off families of those killed in crashes. There were lawsuits and even though Ford was aquitted, they lost millions of dollars. The court cases paved the way for many of the consumer protection laws we have in place today. 

 

The thing is that nobody has PROVEN (and that's the key here ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls) beyond a shadow of a doubt in labratory testing that the PS3 has a design flaw. We need more than "look at the posts" and "Google it" to constitute proof. You can make the claim all you want, but until somebody out there from a REPUTABLE source (and that doesn't mean some yellow journalist or some blogger) proves that there's a problem then there won't be any admission of any kind. 

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Hah, my parents told me about those.

The biggest denial of a huge mistake ever though, imo anyway, would have to be Sony Online Entertainment denying that NGE was a mistake on Star Wars Galaxies from 2005 the whole way to 2009, John Smedley finally kinda admitted it at that point.

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BreakStation3 wrote:

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Techni wrote:

1)  Lets say you've had a PS3 fail. You get a new one. That means 50% of your PS3s have failed. That's not the statistic for all PS3s

 

2) As someone else said, people are far more likely to post their system failed than otherwise. The squeaky wheel effect. You're not seeing the other side of the coin so to speak.

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Once again I'm sorry but I have seen so much with my own eyes it's really hard to believe that astronomically low rate.

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Alright, let's play that game.

My 60GB launch unit still works.

Let's continue shall we?

My PS1 launch unit, and PStwo launch unit, still work.

My PSP launch unit, and PSP slim launch unit, still work.

I have a second gen, original model PSP, and another slim that also still works.

My XBOX, SNES, N64, GCN (bought used) still work.

My GBC, GBA (bought used), DS lite (launch day), VirtualBoy still work.

My PocketStation and WonderSwan Color still work.

Failure rates for all of the above: 0%

I've gone through 1 XBOX360, so has my dad and 2 of my friends. I know of only 1 360 owner who's unit hasn't failed. Failure rate: 80%

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Techni wrote:

Alright, let's play that game.

 

My 60GB launch unit still works.

 

Let's continue shall we?

 

My PS1 launch unit, and PStwo launch unit, still work.

My PSP launch unit, and PSP slim launch unit, still work.

I have a second gen, original model PSP, and another slim that also still works.

 

My XBOX, SNES, N64, GCN (bought used) still work.

My GBC, GBA (bought used), DS lite (launch day), VirtualBoy still work.

My PocketStation and WonderSwan Color still work.

 

Failure rates for all of the above: 0%

 

I've gone through 1 XBOX360, so has my dad and 2 of my friends. I know of only 1 360 owner who's unit hasn't failed. Failure rate: 80%

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We could play that game all night, but it still wouldn't prove a thing. Niether one of us can prove a thing.

Besides we are getting kinda off topic....

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Techni wrote:

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BreakStation3 wrote:

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Techni wrote:

1)  Lets say you've had a PS3 fail. You get a new one. That means 50% of your PS3s have failed. That's not the statistic for all PS3s

 

2) As someone else said, people are far more likely to post their system failed than otherwise. The squeaky wheel effect. You're not seeing the other side of the coin so to speak.

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Once again I'm sorry but I have seen so much with my own eyes it's really hard to believe that astronomically low rate.

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Alright, let's play that game.

 

My 60GB launch unit still works.

 

Let's continue shall we?

 

My PS1 launch unit, and PStwo launch unit, still work.

My PSP launch unit, and PSP slim launch unit, still work.

I have a second gen, original model PSP, and another slim that also still works.

 

My XBOX, SNES, N64, GCN (bought used) still work.

My GBC, GBA (bought used), DS lite (launch day), VirtualBoy still work.

My PocketStation and WonderSwan Color still work.

 

Failure rates for all of the above: 0%

 

I've gone through 1 XBOX360, so has my dad and 2 of my friends. I know of only 1 360 owner who's unit hasn't failed. Failure rate: 80%

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Yeah, my original PS1 and my cousins' PS1s, the OG ones from back before DualShock, my day 1 PS2, my cousin's day 1 PS2, they've never failed and always worked perfectly.

None of my consoles or handhelds have ever stopped working except 1 NES.

I've always heard about the box breaking down from everyone I know that has owned one.

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Phillyblunz wrote:

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BreakStation3 wrote:

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Techni wrote:

1)  Lets say you've had a PS3 fail. You get a new one. That means 50% of your PS3s have failed. That's not the statistic for all PS3s

 

2) As someone else said, people are far more likely to post their system failed than otherwise. The squeaky wheel effect. You're not seeing the other side of the coin so to speak.

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Once again I'm sorry but I have seen so much with my own eyes it's really hard to believe that astronomically low rate.

I mean if those numbers are correct, my chance of having a PS3 fail on me is lower than my chances of winning my state lotto.

Guess I should of bought a ticket cause I'm on PS3 #3

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Well why do some people go through 3-4 PS3's when others still have perfectly fine LAUNCH models???????

 

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Because IF your PS3 breaks you get a refurbished on returned to you, and those are breaking at a MUCH higher rate than new systems are.

I've seen quite a few people who have gone through 2-8 refurbished PS3s.

As for Sony admitting there is a problem, that will NEVER happen, no matter how bad the problem really is. It's cheaper for Sony to claim that there is no problem and charge $150 for each repair than it would be to admit there is a problem, which would require that they fix it for free.